Thursday, October 13, 2005

The Power of Crying Out, (from rebuttal to refutation) part 5

So far, I've just tried to show that Gothard has not made his case. At this point, I haven't shown that his thesis is false. It may be true for reasons he hasn't given us. So now, I want to say specifically why I think his thesis is false.

The first reason I think his thesis is false is because, contrary to his assertion on p. 14 that "the Bible makes a distinction between 'prayer' and 'crying out to God,'" the Bible makes no such distinction, and nowhere in his book does he even attempt to substantiate that claim. In fact, there is no distinction. To pray literally means to ask or petition. In all of the scriptural examples of people crying out to God, they were making petitions, so they were praying out loud. Oddly enough, Gothard seems to contradict his own assertion by quoting scriptures that are about praying in order to support his thesis about crying out (e.g. Daniel 9:17-19, Psalm 102:102).

The second reason I think his thesis is false is also provided by Gothard himself. On p. 27 he offers scriptural examples of when silent prayer was effective (e.g. 1 SAmuel 1:10-15) and on p. 82 he offers scriptural examples of when crying out was not effective (e.g. Psalm 22:2).

to be continued...
Part 6


At 10/13/2005 6:14 PM , Blogger Safiyyah said...

Wow. You're very thorough, Sam!

At 10/13/2005 11:14 PM , Blogger ephphatha said...

That's because I'm persnickety! Or so I've been told. Hi, Safiyyah! Nice to see you again. :-0

At 10/14/2005 2:11 AM , Blogger Safiyyah said...

Yeah, I can't believe how many posts you have on this one topic! I think I'd have dismissed the idea of 'crying out to God' in one post! But then again, your methodical reasoning is precisely what I enjoy about your blog.

At 10/14/2005 2:11 AM , Blogger Safiyyah said...

By the way, I think persnickety is one of those words that deserves to be banned forever. ;-)

At 10/14/2005 4:05 AM , Blogger ephphatha said...

Are you kidding? I love that word! It's even better when spoken out loud than when you just think it to yourself.


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