tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post4687374912886548503..comments2023-08-05T21:48:58.831-04:00Comments on Philochristos: A Calvinism thought experimentSam Harperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15884738370893218595noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post-34078843158102328962011-06-15T16:59:55.673-04:002011-06-15T16:59:55.673-04:00Yes, I have heard Koukl give his Orc analogy. The...Yes, I have heard Koukl give his Orc analogy. The only problem I have with it is that the characters he refers to were not orcs. They were uraki. I think that totally invalidates his analogy. LOL Just kidding!Sam Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15884738370893218595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post-86989642198069588612011-06-15T16:53:47.465-04:002011-06-15T16:53:47.465-04:00Very nice post. Compatiblism makes sense to me giv...Very nice post. Compatiblism makes sense to me given total depravity. <br /><br />Have you ever heard of Greg Koukl's illustration of the creation of the Orcs in Lord of the Rings to the total depravity of man? The Orcs were created depraved, yet their choices were their of their own free will. Interesting concept.Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13248559361975013834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post-27657335795833092042011-02-10T18:57:30.291-05:002011-02-10T18:57:30.291-05:00Interesting. Well, thanks for responding, Psiomni...Interesting. Well, thanks for responding, Psiomniac.Sam Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15884738370893218595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post-88693776317179138862011-02-10T18:47:57.151-05:002011-02-10T18:47:57.151-05:00I'm not sure how a libertarian would answer si...I'm not sure how a libertarian would answer since for me libertarian free will is a kind of 'all bets are off' idea. That is to say I find it incoherent and thus it is difficult for me to predict what follows from holding that view.<br /><br />I suppose a libertarian who wanted to show that moral responsibility is compatible with Calvinism might want to say that even a Voldemort (of either sort) is radically free in a sense that they could defy their predispositions and do the right thing, because that choice is in some sense a live option for them.<br /><br />I'm a compatibilist and I think I would agree with my previous post, the created Voldemort is not morally responsible whereas the one that grew up might be.Psiomniachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01102719882200943549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post-10910925705673173372011-02-09T19:16:03.077-05:002011-02-09T19:16:03.077-05:00Psiomniac, how do you think a libertarian might an...Psiomniac, how do you think a libertarian might answer? How would YOU answer?Sam Harperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15884738370893218595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10407988.post-51988016977870559182011-02-09T19:13:31.001-05:002011-02-09T19:13:31.001-05:00I think that it is possible that there is a morall...I think that it is possible that there is a morally relevant difference between the two Voldemorts in your latest thought experiment.<br /><br />One version of compatibilism has it that to be a morally responsible agent is to be a moderately reasons responsive agent who came to be that way via a route that doesn't violate the agent's autonomous ability to participate in the formation of its own evaluation mechanism. Whilst this might be true of the born Voldemort, it isn't true of the one created by J.K. Rowling.Psiomniachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01102719882200943549noreply@blogger.com